Not Much of an update
I am working on a "how to fuse box tuck" thread... Without giving away too much the tuck is only for s14's unfortunately. I don't think I will go through the trouble of tucking the fuse boxes on the s13, much less do I even know what the fuck they do!
S14 Fuse box Relocation and Q&A thread
Anyway headed down to the garage and laughed at my pulley bolt with my air gun.
oil on the bolt and in the pulley means the seal is ready to be changed lol... the pulley however laughed back at me since I did not have a pulley remover handy. *face palm*
so back to this lower harness mess. I have to sort out the lower harness before I can remove the fuse box as I need to figure out how I am going to run the wires that plug into the fuse box.
Rather than make you scratch your head like a retard with engine diagram layouts and what not i'll simplify it.
on the left is the KA24DE lower harness and on the right is the SR20DET Lower Harness
Lets break down this KA harness and see what we need and what we don't need.
Yeah, getting all new cables and copper ends.
breaking it down.
ok, fuck this, KA24DE harness has waaaaay too much shit I may need for the actual KA motor I need to put in my hatch to use this harness, so I will just re-wire the fuse box plugs accordingly.
SR20DET Lower harness with emissions wiring removed and ground and power wires removed!!
and the behemoth octopus of wires that is the KA24DE lower harness. basically I'm going to take two of the plugs off of that KA harness and swap them with 3 of the SR fuse box plugs and then put them on the "other" car.
Also the KA24DE harness has the lower 02 sensor plug on there, which I guess I will need to run with my ecu. Gosh that fucking hatch is going to be a nightmare. I should just buy another SR and plug it in and call it a day lololol but that would be too easy.
S13 speed sensor removed, and will be swapped with the s14 speed sensor so I don't have to de-pin and adapt the plugs. This is easier, 1 screw, tug, throw in plastic bag with a little oil so the rubber seal ring doesn't dry out.
cleaned off the hole for the speed sensor and taped it up, replaced screw so I don't lose it.
For the visual learners, like myself staring at a huge wiring diagram or a picture with pin outs makes me go... fuck and I just sit there and go.... fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck... So to make some positive progress I took this crap downstairs and plugged it where it looks like it goes, double checked wire colors and pin outs and then figured out what I don't have and why not.
Realized that stuff I will be splicing or re-pinning into the s14 plugs.
so alternator, stuff and starter stuff seems to be figured out so far.
I couldn't seem to figure out what this was, so I guess it's a fuse box plug for the s13... so I'll be running this into one of the connectors on the s14 plugs it looks like. (the triangle one.)
Ordered more shit so I can sleeve this lower harness when I am done with it, and also will be sleeving the accessory harness running through the engine bay making it SMALLER by relocating that fuse box.
4th grade pin out drawing by GSXRJordan to use as a double, tripple cross reference.
so in conclusion if you didn't click the above link.
and to close it out.
Ordered my MC to SC clutch replacement line from taka motorsports this morning, and also an assortment of replacement gaskets from frsport... love those guys and gals.
S14 Fuse box Relocation and Q&A thread
Anyway headed down to the garage and laughed at my pulley bolt with my air gun.
oil on the bolt and in the pulley means the seal is ready to be changed lol... the pulley however laughed back at me since I did not have a pulley remover handy. *face palm*
so back to this lower harness mess. I have to sort out the lower harness before I can remove the fuse box as I need to figure out how I am going to run the wires that plug into the fuse box.
Rather than make you scratch your head like a retard with engine diagram layouts and what not i'll simplify it.
on the left is the KA24DE lower harness and on the right is the SR20DET Lower Harness
Lets break down this KA harness and see what we need and what we don't need.
Yeah, getting all new cables and copper ends.
breaking it down.
ok, fuck this, KA24DE harness has waaaaay too much shit I may need for the actual KA motor I need to put in my hatch to use this harness, so I will just re-wire the fuse box plugs accordingly.
SR20DET Lower harness with emissions wiring removed and ground and power wires removed!!
and the behemoth octopus of wires that is the KA24DE lower harness. basically I'm going to take two of the plugs off of that KA harness and swap them with 3 of the SR fuse box plugs and then put them on the "other" car.
Also the KA24DE harness has the lower 02 sensor plug on there, which I guess I will need to run with my ecu. Gosh that fucking hatch is going to be a nightmare. I should just buy another SR and plug it in and call it a day lololol but that would be too easy.
S13 speed sensor removed, and will be swapped with the s14 speed sensor so I don't have to de-pin and adapt the plugs. This is easier, 1 screw, tug, throw in plastic bag with a little oil so the rubber seal ring doesn't dry out.
cleaned off the hole for the speed sensor and taped it up, replaced screw so I don't lose it.
For the visual learners, like myself staring at a huge wiring diagram or a picture with pin outs makes me go... fuck and I just sit there and go.... fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck... So to make some positive progress I took this crap downstairs and plugged it where it looks like it goes, double checked wire colors and pin outs and then figured out what I don't have and why not.
Realized that stuff I will be splicing or re-pinning into the s14 plugs.
so alternator, stuff and starter stuff seems to be figured out so far.
I couldn't seem to figure out what this was, so I guess it's a fuse box plug for the s13... so I'll be running this into one of the connectors on the s14 plugs it looks like. (the triangle one.)
Ordered more shit so I can sleeve this lower harness when I am done with it, and also will be sleeving the accessory harness running through the engine bay making it SMALLER by relocating that fuse box.
4th grade pin out drawing by GSXRJordan to use as a double, tripple cross reference.
so in conclusion if you didn't click the above link.
Om1kron wrote:(SR)E201 needs to be sliced and the plug needs to be swapped with (KA)E202
(SR)E202 needs to be sliced and swapped over to (KA)E203however there is a catch with the wiring on that I have not written out, things like the vss do not need to be changed over since I am swapping the vss from the KA tranny to the SR tranny and vise versa (since the ka is going in an s13) Same deal with the alternator plug…I’ll have some pictures once I get into it.
On my SR lower harness after plugging the items up and double checking the wire’s this is what I have come up with.
Example (plug. Pinout example) read from left to right from plug face (where it goes in)Alternator is E207 – 1. white/red 16ga | 2. white 14ga
Starter is E210 – 1. black/white 12ga
Oil Pressure Switch E209 – 1. yellow/white 18ga
Vehicle Speed Sensor E211 – 1. yellow/green | 2. yellow/black
Neutral Sensor E213 – 1. green/brown | 2. black grnd to starter 18ga
Back up light E212 – 1. green/white | 2. green 18ga
GA = Gauge which = size of the wire I will be adding into the equation.
and to close it out.
Ordered my MC to SC clutch replacement line from taka motorsports this morning, and also an assortment of replacement gaskets from frsport... love those guys and gals.
